Link to 1001 Nights eText
Friday, October 30, 2009
Leonid Shmukler - 1001 nights
2. The stories of “1001 Nights” as stated “is also “interwoven” of different moments” In other words, although these are fictional stories, the tales are woven together consistently by the author. There are many lessons and small stories within the larger ones and many themes are woven together. Sometimes when events and themes are woven together, one can lose sense of the past, present, and future. In the story “King Sindibad and his Falcon” there is not really a mix of time settings intertwined, rather it seems to flow straight from the beginning of the story to the end. When this occurs, we call this “teleological time” This kind of time has a cause leading to an effect, or a beginning leading to an end, and there is a significant purpose. In this story, there is a beginning of the king raising a falcon, a middle of the story where the king and his men go hunting, where the king finally traps a gazelle with the aid of his falcon, and an ending where the king learns a lesson. He learns that he should not have assumed that his
falcon’s intentions were meant for harm, but rather the falcon’s intentions were for good as it tried to save the king from poison. This story is “teleological’ and has a direct beginning, middle, and end and a specificity of time rather than different phases being intertwined.
3. Most of these works from “1001 Nights” are derived from Arabic cultures and have many meanings that would be understood by the people of these countries. The story of ‘The Tale of the Husband and the Parrot” is a perfect example of a story that is relative to the Arabic culture. In this story, the wife cheats on her husband with a Turkish man while the husband is away. When the husband finds out about this from the parrot, he proceeds to beat her as it states “Thereupon the husband went to his wife in a violent rage and bashed her with a bashing severe enough to satisfy any body.” In many of the Arabic cultures, men are believed to be superior and they believe in beating their wives as is stated “Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great.” The practice of a husband beating his wife to therefore “punish” her to show power over her is common in many Arabic cultures, as “The Tale of the Husband and the Parrot” suggests.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/wife-beating.htm#_Toc160373809
Wednesday, October 28, 2009
1- I think stellar time is seen on twitter. I was never the kind of person that likes to send emails, use twitter or face book. When I made the account for this class I did not use it the first 2 days. But the first time I went online I was surprised by what my class mates are writing. The write every thing that happens to then in that day. There is no such think as privacy. People tell each other everything on twitter. I know that when a person speaks to a friend about a hardship he will fell a little happier because he has someone to speak to, but no anyone and not everything. This experience only forced my point that twitter, face book and other means of communication that we use these days are only taking us away from real life.
2- In the reading we have stories within stories, and they all interact together to make an ultimate story. A good example is the tale of the Bull and Ass. In that tale you have the story of the farmer who “Allah Most High had endowed him with under standing the tongues of beasts and birds” same as King Salomon. But that gift came with a cost and that is if any one know about the gift the farmer will die a horrible death. The other story is the dialogue between the Bull and the Ass which caused the farmer to laugh and made his wife upset. To make it up for his wife he was going to tell every body about the secret, which meant he wanted to kill himself and all that because of the dialogue between the bull and the Ass. The type of time theory that is presented is cause-effect theory.
3- From my knowledge of the Arabic culture I know that almost everybody has heard or read the 1001 nights. These tales are very famous in Arabic countries and a lot of movies were made from these tales. Prophet Mohammad since the start of Islam 15 centuries ago was asking both men and women to study and seek knowledge. There is a saying that he says “ask for knowledge even if it is in china.” Islam doesn’t treat women bad as the west proclaim. It is the west that treats women as sex object. You do not see as much divorce in Islam as you see in the west and that’s because Islam value women more.
Saturday, October 24, 2009
Diana Liang's response
2.In The Tale of the Bull and the Ass two types of time exist. The story begins with the bull complaining to the donkey about all the labor he must do. The donkey gives him advice as to how he can get out doing work. A farmer gifted with the power to understand animals overhears all this. The farmer makes the donkey do all of the bull’s work. At the end of this story, the donkey tricks the bull back into doing his work. The farmer laughs at the two and begins another story about the farmer and his wife. In this story the farmer also takes advice from the dog regarding his wife. These two stories are told in the Teleological time format because the story is told as things happen and also shows a cause and effect relationship. The next story is involved jumps to tell about the king and a lady by the name of Scheherazade who is transported into his bed room. The story is linked to the previous two stories because Scheherazade hears of them. This is an example of Stella time because the characters in the two stories are intermingling with Scheherazade and affects her life.
3. I think that the Tale of the Husband and the Parrot would be well received by the Islamic countries today. I base my opinion on the recent law passed by the Afghanistan’s government which is the law that it is legal for a man to rape his wife. The law was revoked later on due to pressure from other countries. However this shows that women are treated as second class citizens . In the tale of the Husband and the Parrot, the husband beats his wife when he finds out about her lover. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512556,00.html
Friday, October 23, 2009
Ira Cabrele - 1001 nights of tales and 11 days of Twitter!
2. In the tales of 1001 nights fate and destiny are a common theme. In fact italian filmaker Pasolini said: “every tale in 1001 Nights begins with an 'appearance of destiny' which manifests itself through an anomaly, and one anomaly always generates another. .. The protagonist of the stories is in fact destiny itself.". Stellar time is almost present in every tale. For example you can go from rags to riches by either working hard or just by being in the right place at the right time. Sometimes destiny is not good enought. You have to take advantage when the opportunity presents. For example the tale "The Fisherman and the Jinni" it is all about stellar time where intermingling scenarios affected the fisherman's life by saving not only his life but making him very rich. The fisherman was very old, and poor. He used to cast his net four times a day One day he went to the shore and cast his net. The fourth time he called upon the name of God and cast his net. He found a copper jar with a cap that had the seal of Solomon on it. The fisherman was so happy as he thought he could sell the jar for money. He was curious of what was inside the jar, and removed the cap with his knife. A Jinni came out of the jar who granted the fisherman a choice of the manner of his death. The fisherman pleaded for his life, but the Jinni would not concede. The fisherman decided to trick the Jinni. He asked the Jinni how he managed to fit into the bottle. The Jinni, eager to show off, shrank and placed himself back into the bottle to demonstrate his abilities. The fisherman quickly put the cap back on and threatened to throw it back to the sea. The Jinni pleaded with the fisherman, who began to tell the story of "The Wazir and the Sage Duban" as an example of why the Jinni should have spared him. After the story, the Jinni pleaded for clemency, and swore to help him in return for being released. The fisherman accepted the bargain, and released the Jinni. The Jinni then led the fisherman to a pond with many exotic fish, and the fisherman caught four. Before disappearing, the Jinni told the fisherman to give the fish to the Sultan. The fisherman did so and was rewarded with money for presenting the fishes. Every time a fish was fried, a person would appear and question them, and the fish answered. the Sultan asked the fisherman where he got the fish and went to the pond to uncover their mystery. When he reached his destination, the Sultan found a young man who was half man and half stone. The young man recounted his story, as the story of "The Ensorcelled Prince". The Sultan then assisted the Prince in his liberation and revenge. They became close friends, and the fisherman who first found the fish was rewarded with his son being appointed the Sultan's treasurer, and the Sultan and the prince married the fisherman's two daughters.
3. Afghanistan — One morning two months ago, Shamsia Husseini and her sister were walking through the muddy streets to the local girls school when a man pulled alongside them on a motorcycle and posed what seemed like an ordinary question. “Are you going to school?”Then the man pulled Shamsia’s burqa from her head and sprayed her face with burning acid. Scars, jagged and discolored, now spread across Shamsia’s eyelids and most of her left cheek. These days, her vision goes blurry, making it hard for her to read. This is an extract from an article on NY times (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/world/asia/14kandahar.html). Women in some muslim countries are not even allowed to go to school. And another episode shocked me from an article in AM NY of Oct.22nd " Kwait's highest court granted women the right to obtain a passport without their husband's approval. In many countries in this region women cannot travel or obtain passport without the consent of their male guardians". This was quite a shocking news to a woman like me, who was raised in an Western country and who started to travel indipendently at the age of 14. Scheherazade is definitely a woman who could have been killed or burned by acid by fanatics in countries such as Afghanistan or Kwait. The King Shahryar is an example of a fanatic man at the begenning of the story. He was marrying a new virgin, every day and beheading the one of yesterday only because he found out that his first wife was betraying him. He had killed three thousand such women by the time he was introduced to Scheherazade, the vizier's daughter. In Sir. Richard F. Burton's translation Shahrazad was described in this way: "Shahrazad had perused the books, annals and legends of preceding Kings, and the stories, examples and instances of by gone men and things; indeed it was said that she had collected a thousand books of histories relating to antique races and departed rulers. She had perused the works of the poets and knew them by heart; she had studied philosophy and the sciences, arts and accomplishments; and she was pleasant and polite, wise and witty, well read and well bred."
Scheherazade did not use her body or beauty to seduce the king. Instead she used her wisdom to make the king change his mind and have her not killed. She was married by the king and became queen. From the examples I brought even the king would have not been accepted in some fanatic muslim cultures since he was seduced by a woman's wisdom. For certain fanatics by no means a woman can be wise or think to seduce a man using her wisdom and knowledge.
I really hope in these countries things start to change. For example in Kwait a small change happened by giving woman passports. Women can start travelling and come like this in contact with other cultures and meet new people. I understand that religion is very important for many countries and people, but I do not tollerate when it is used by fanatics to do their own interest and treat women like they are people of an inferior category. There is no GOD in this world that can tollerate or be happy to watch a woman being tortured or being burned by acid. If he does, then sorry but for me he is not the right God! Unfortunately many of these monsters act under the name of God. Everyone who names GOD in doing such atrocities is just a poor COWARD.
It is not the fault of the religion itself even though sometimes it might appears...Muslim religion is as beautiful as Christian of Judaism. Unfortunately religion becomes a dangerous weapon when used from fanatics to do their crazy actions using God as their inspiration. By doing so, and by committing crimes,these fanatics put ashame the muslim culture and tradition. But we have to be smart and open minded and not risk in generalizing and judging a whole beautiful culture and tradition such as Muslim.
Thursday, October 22, 2009
Jonathan Yeung's reaction to the reading
T1) The types of time that influences me and others on twitter cannot be surmised with just one theory of time. I believe both the teleological and stellar theories of time are equally admissible to our lives.
We are affected by the teleological theory of time, because events happen in a linear order. I wrote my first tweet on Oct 13th, my second tweet was on Oct 14th and so forth. I cannot possibly post a tweet in the present that would have a date of posting in the past, nor in the future.
3) The treatment of woman in most Islamic states is deplorable. Women are still being stoned to death, and murdered in what are claimed to be honor killing. In this modern age these acts are a disgrace to the human race. With that being said, I think the stories within the 1001 Nights would be not be discredited in modern Islamic cultures. The 1001 Night Tales contains tales of misogyny; the beginning of the 1001 Night Tales has the king declaring all women evil. The king proceeds to kill the virgins he deflowers; the women are treated as expendable. The death of a parrot in “The tale of the Husband and the Parrot” is considered worse than when the husband murders his wife. How woman are treated in Muslim society can be seen here,
http://debate.org.uk/topics/coolcalm/women.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0426-10.htm
http://www.islam-watch.org/SyedKamranMirza/honor_killing.htm
Mei Liu's response to 1001 nights
2. In 1001 nights, I think all different time are presented. I thought it was interesting how sometimes you can just put stories within stories and that you can just copy and paste one story and put it before or after another and it can be like this story and then within that story another story happens, so when I was choosing three stories I copied them into a word document and notice how although the three stories I chose were out of order they somehow made sense and connect to each other. With that, it was hard to remember which event happened in which story because then all the stories got mixed together in a sense. In the story of THE FISHERMAN AND THE JINNI, we can see examples of stellar time because in the story one event affected another. Each time when the fisherman cast the net and didn’t catch a fish he was determined to cast it again until he can go home with something to sell. And every action that the fisherman took affected the outcome. And when the Jinni showed up, if the fisherman was not wised about his actions, he could’ve died. Therefore every event that happened affected what is to come.
3. I’m not sure if 1001 nights would be consider a very popular read in modern Islamic countries. A lot of the stories in 1001 nights touch upon morals and very religious. And these stories are told from a woman who is very knowledgeable being able to weave together all these stories. The role of women in modern Islamic is very inferior. They are not allowed to show their faces and must wears veils which shows that they don’t have much rights or not as important as men are consider to be. This literature 1001 nights is the story of a woman telling all these great stories which shows she has very deep understanding and experience in life, but I don’t think that would be accepted in modern Islamic countries.
Eugene Shnayder's Post
2. The Tale of the Bull and the Ass is definetly a story with in a story. A farmer is given a gift from Allah that he can hear animals talk and he is able to speak back to them as well. However if he discloses to people that he knows what animals are saying he will die a horrible death. Then there is a small story about how the bull and the ass become friends. One day the farmer is with his wife and he over hears the bull and ass talking and he laughs. His wife got really upset and begged him to tell her why he was laughing. He decided that becuase he loves his wife he will tell her about his gift and sacrafice himself and die. He gathers his family and friends, but before that he speaks to a dog and the dog gives him advice, but then as he is going to tell his wife the truth she realizes that he does love her and she does not need to know his secret. This is like a Teleological time as well becuase there is a cause-->effect, beginning leads to end. Him keeping a secret from his wife caused to him show his love for her and he was willing to die, but in reality becuase she loved him she decided that he doesn't need to tell her and they love happily ever after together.
The Tale of Three Apples has stellar time becuase it starts by the discovery of a box under the Tigris river, and in it is a fair girl in 19 pieces. It has nothing to do with 3 Apples, but if at all, just one Apple. This apple, a object of desire of the girl, passed hands from the Caliph's garden to her husbands hand to her son and to a black slave, in which she is slain in the process without her knowledge. All of these scenarios are intermingled with eachother which all leads up to one conclusion.
3. The Bull and the Ass shows the love for aminals in Islamics culture. It is stated in the Koran that Allah loves animals, and therefore in this tale he is showing that animals can communicate with eachother, and animals have feelings just like humans do. In Islam there is always a postive attitude toward animals and animlas should be treated fairly.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3687704,00.html
1001 Nights Response
The type of time that seems to mostly influence me and my class mates seems to be Stellar time, although I often try to live in the Teleological time, where I try to spend my days as planned and with some purpose in mind. However, I often end up distracted with what happens to me at any time. This is also demonstrated in the postings of my classmates on Twitter. We often plan to spend the weekend studying or working on assignments, but we end up doing something else. As far as the postings of my classmates, I can't say I was affected much by their tweets, but I found reading their thoughts enjoyable and was able to take something out of the information that some have posted or the resources that they shared such as some news stories or videos.
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In the reading, we actually get different stories within the main story. For example, the story about the woman and the Ifrit is part of the major storyline but is also a story of its own, about a woman taken by the Jinni and married to him and hidden in the bottom of the sea and one who cheats on the Jinni and collects the rings of those who she sleeps with. We also see this with the story of the daughter of the Wazir who is very smart and educated, and who is willing to sacrifice herself to save the rest of the girls of the kingdom. This reading seems like it is following Stellar time, where different people with different stories interrelate with one another to construct the major storyline.
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In most of the Islamic countries today, especially in those that are not a democracy, this story would not be received well. In a country like Saudi Arabia, which presently uses the Sharia, the story will probably be banned and the author or translator would be punished. These days, a number of countries with predominantly Muslim populations have seen fundamentalists getting empowered and influencing much of the countries' laws and traditions. And, I suspect they would use their influence to work against this story and the author if it is introduced in those countries. A recent controversy that would demonstrate this behavior would be the protests and anger that was raised a few years ago when a Danish news paper printed cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad. So, this story would not be well received in Muslim countries.
Monday, October 19, 2009
Aye Swe's Response to 1001 Nights
2. Tale of the Three Apples contains a story within a story within a story. It is a tragic tale about a man who killed his wife over a misunderstanding. The narrator begins the story with two high ranking men discovering a mutilated female body by the Tigris River. They are angry over their findings and when they investigate, they find that the woman was murdered by her now remorseful husband. A story within a story first emerges when the husband tells the two men why he killed his wife. As the husband relates past events, we get to hear another story when he mentions his son’s tale of how the slave stole the apple.
Stellar is the dominating time theory in the overall story. The husband’s discovery of the slave with the apple changes the course of the lives of the husband and his family. He thought his wife had given it to the slave, and out of anger, he killed her. One can also conclude that if the son hadn’t stolen the apple in the first place, it wouldn’t have gotten in the hands of the slave, and therefore, his father would never have seen it. And of course, the two men at the beginning of the story wouldn’t have discovered this tragic story if they hadn’t found the severed body by the river.
3. Islamic militants and fundamentalists of countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq display harsh and cruel treatments to its citizens, especially women, and others. That, in turn, tarnishes the reputation of those countries and the Muslim religion. However, as one of the few Islamic countries with very liberal views on cultural and other issues, Tunisia shows tolerance and open-mindedness as a Muslim nation. This country is also one of the leading Islamic nations fighting for woman’s rights. The majority of Tunisian Muslims believe that abusing one’s spouse is abominable. If one were to ask the people of Tunisia about the outcome of Tale of the Three Apples, it is very likely that the majority will not be in favor of the husband who took it upon himself to kill a wife he thought was cheating on him.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_domestic_violence)
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia)
Sunday, October 18, 2009
"...If anyone kills a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all people. And if anyone saves a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all people" (http://islam.about.com/cs/law/a/c_punishment.htm)
Through the stories we noticed that people who are responsible for the death others will receive the death penalty. For example, in “the hunchback’s tale” where four different people were going to be hung because they were found guilty in the death of Gobo. I don’t feel that those from an Islamic country would be offended by these stories as not much if anything has changed. The examples I’ve pulled from the tales could have come from one of their own newspaper headlines.